Buddhist forum about the Dhamma of Theravāda Buddhism. A discussion on all aspects of Theravāda Buddhism. Atanatiya Sutta. Dear Venerables, I read the Atanatiya sutta today. In it a Yakka asks the Buddha whether he can teach the Buddha a chant to protect his. Kumpulan Paritta – Paritta Suci Sang Buddha, Appasannehi nāthassa, sāsane sādhusammate; amanussehi candehi, sadā kibbisakāribhi.

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I read the Atanatiya sutta today. In it a Yakka asks the Buddha whether he can teach atanstiya Buddha a chant to protect his disciples from yakkas, and the Buddha consents in silence.

What criteria do you apply to determine the authenticity of a sutta and how do they apply to the Atanatiya sutta? Hi Mat, to answer your first question, have a read of this. Ven Brahmali and I discussed these issues in some detail, so this should give you some background. Catumaharajika gods are part of the EBT heavenly realms. These, including Kuvera, are Vedic in origin. It would be impossible to find any sutta which was completely devoid of any evidence, but on balance this sutta seems to be non-EBT.

We could wonder if it was an early attempt to include the prevalent supernatural beliefs into the fold of the scriptures.

Mat ps- it would be very interesting if there were a comparative study between EBT deities and deities of other Indian religions. As far as comparative studies of deities, indeed that would be nice, let me know if you find anything. ISBNbut have no access to it.


Atanatiya is good chant for protection from bad parasitics spirits, that sucks your vitial energy jivitindiya and disturb your body and mind when you trying to meditate. And even your metta will not help you against those evil spirits.


Please do not feel offended. When it ustta to paritta chants I have as well experienced things which make me understand the place and relevance of it as a tool to deal with challenges of the contemplative life. Therefore from this time forward do you show goodwill to the four royal races. I always felt skeptical about these gods who appear in the suttas very rarely.

Majority of traditional Buddhists believe in such mythology but, from a critical point of view such cultural baggage should be put aside. Many Buddhists from srilanka worship such gods and sometimes they consider gods to be superior than the buddha. Mahasamaya sutta cannot be considered as a later development since it has many parallel versions in the Chinese agamas etc…But they contain traces of peculiar stuff that cannot be considered as budda vacana.

But that your shaking gets taanatiya with chanting the Atanatiya sutta is certain.

Authenticity of Atanatiya sutta – Discussion – Discuss & Discover

The Buddha would probably say that this grounds enough to use it. Mosquito repellent was not mentioned by the Buddha, nor was pepper spray! The divergence between sects occur after several decades of common development during which introduction of new material has occured either as whole new suttas or adding material to original suttas. The collection into the Pali nikayas and the agama sets occur after these corruptions had sjtta occured.

Atanatiya Sutta

Of course more corruptions occured later on and in this ahanatiya comparing Pali and agama versions are very useful to detect these specific corruptions but not the ones that occured before sects split. The picture below depict the tribe with 3 references from the Tripitaka, Mahavamsa and Lankavatara Suthra.


Similar ambiguity exists with Naga too. A person who belong to the Naga tribe was referred as a Naga. King Dutugamunu father was qtanatiya Naga. The Naga is also used to refer to a snake. Although a Yakka is always a human being. Authenticity of Atanatiya sutta Discussion. Dear Venerables, I read the Atanatiya sutta today.

Could you please elucidate the authenticity of this sutta? Dear Ajhan Sujato, What criteria do you apply to determine the authenticity of a sutta and how do they apply to the Atanatiya sutta? From what I gather the Atanatiya sutta…: I think this might be a distinguishing feature.

Dear Ajhan Sujato, Thanks. In my case, I am particularly found of the Khandha Paritta, found in the Jatakas: Hi Kheminda Would you say: Maybe he just washed his face and was happy?! If yakkas and devas are humans, deva loka must be manussa loka. There are 3 types of devas. The conventional Devas – These people lived in the Deva area in the map above. They were the Brahmins, scholars, teachers and the like. Katharagama and Saman Devas are conventional Devas.

The Deva Realm – These are beings made of fine matter. They are born and come to an end spontaneously. You distinguish the type of being from the context.